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    Mike RFeb 1, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    So, because your friend had a few drinks and went to a frat party and got even more hammered, you’re going to make a sweeping generalization about the entire Greek community? You mentioned cross country- a very good friend of mine had one too many drinks at a cross country party and I was called down so that I could carry her back to her house. So, does that mean that all cross country runners are predatory and vicious towards women? No. Your friend should have a little more self-control. She doesn’t have to drink every drink that is handed to her, and for you to assert that her lack of self-control is due to some ambiguous definition of fraternity life is completely ignorant and without relevant base.

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    PJOct 19, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Could not agree more. Greek life is a disease for the wealthy, self concerned, appearance minded ass.

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      BrittanyFeb 3, 2013 at 11:11 am

      This is just an ignorant comment. I am a proud member of a Greek organization on campus and I am not a “wealthy, self-concerned, appearance-minded ass”. I come from a middle class family, saved the money from my work-study job on campus to pay my fees, and I am not a supermodel. Greek organizations are a way to branch out, do some community service, have a core group in people who become your best friends. I went Greek when I realized that all of my friend were already Greek and it looked like they were having a great time and I wanted to share in that with them. I have no regrets.

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    GuestJan 29, 2012 at 12:52 am

    When it comes to your article I do need to correct you on some of your valued points. Being one that works closely with the Greek community (as a whole) I can tell you that many brothers and sisters of all organizations have been crucial to helping a local community turn for the better. There have been Greek leaders that have done such great things and also put on the the front page of newspapers. We are “owning our shit” and we are working on our issues, but know that you should not use such blanket statements. I understand that this is an article about your opinion but remember that Greeks are not the only people to focus your issues on. YOU briefly mentioned sports teams and dropped the focus from them. We all have issues that we are working hard to correct so please help all of us by calling it out and not being a bystander.

  • AnonymousSep 23, 2011 at 2:30 am

    Hey guys,

    We are closing comments on articles from last year.
    This one’s still pretty active, so I thought I’d give any would-be
    commenters a heads up, so you know we’re not ignoring you.

    Dan Bauer
    Editor-in-chief of Web content

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    Bend 44Sep 15, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    No one gave her those drinks she got them herself. Drinking at parties isn’t a requirement its a choice, and if your friends are so easily influenced that they black out when presented with alcohol than they shouldn’t go to parties. For someone up on their high horse, who I am sure values their intelligence over the debauchery and vulgarity of greek-life, you certainly seem to be lacking a group of peers with common sense.

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    Allegheny used to be funSep 15, 2011 at 1:44 am

    Call the fun police!!! Frats and sports teams drink!!!  There’s more to college life than studying and ping pong in the campus center game room. I’m glad at least some of the ACXC still can party. 

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    Gator AlumnusSep 14, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Perhaps the headline should read, “Irresponsible drinking hurts, not helps, Allegheny community”

    Not sure why fraternities were singled out, other than the fact that it makes for an attention grabbing headline. At Allegheny, my experience was the athletic teams having bigger, unregulated keggers than any of the fraternities would be able to get away with.

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    Southern_boyAug 18, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Sweeping genealities. Congrats. Obviously all lacrosse players are murders and rapists because of what happened at UVA and Duke. 

    You said it in a one sentence paragraph: youve seen the same binge drinking “predatory” tactics on your cross country team, and on other sports teams. Guess what, its college. People do dumb things for no reason other than society has taught us that college is some four year lala land where you can do wahtever you want and it does not have consequences later in life. 

    Just because Greeks are an obvious, publicly known group does not mean greeks are the only one. Rapes and murder, and alcohol abuse have also been linked to non-greeks, as well, so therefore, to prevent this from happening, all non-greeks should be required to join a fraternity. 

    your logic sucks. Yes, a few bad apples can ruin the whole batch, but to say that all greeks are terrible and should be sent away is simply ignorant. 

    If you ever come to South Georgia, please come visit my fraternity at a large public instituion. You will see a group who has good grades, serves the community, and is generally a great example of what being a fraternity and fraternity men is all about. But you’d probably focus on the guy who messed up and got a DUI, or the fraternity next door that has some guys who do drugs, or on the tons of empty beer cans in the trash from the night before. 

    You, sir, see what you want to see. 

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    Harris MecidoApr 27, 2011 at 1:03 am

    What? This article appears to have been written by a disgrunted former candidate of the Greek system who vents frustration after having been rejected.

    Great job at impartiality, bubs.

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    SteveApr 24, 2011 at 12:15 am

    Lee, I certainly can agree to the fact that Fraternities and Sororities do create a certain divide on our campus quite physically, more so than the divides of living in separate dorm buildings on campus.

    Your story though is only representing one night and one person. It conveys a sad story, but one that is not universal for students who go to these parties, or even the houses themselves.

    The argument should not be against the fraternities & sororities (though i see a significant absence of any argument against sororities in your piece, which takes away about half the argument you could have made) as alleged accomplices to the crimes, but the substance(s) at hand.

    The statistics are available from the security office (though they may not be compelled to release them), but I am confident incidents of black-out/brown-out, sexual assault, violence/vandalism, illegal consumption or drug use, and other crimes originate from one of the 10+ dorm buildings, an off campus houses (owned or not), or even a Meadville bar/club more often than the 5 fraternity buildings on campus.

    Although as far as I’m aware, sexual violence is nil, if not nonexistent on our campus. Allegheny is not perfect, but it is not Columbia or Duke or any larger institution that has had issues in the past. However this issue is always a good one to bring dialogue towards as we modernize and bring efforts to fully house our fellow students on campus grounds.

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    Evan T. WoodsApr 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    I find this article to be rather unclear on just what, exactly, the Greek community at Allegheny is being accused of. *Have* they been involved in drug trafficking? *Have* they been involved in sexual assault, verbal harassment, etc.? If they have, then it’s the duty of the Greek community and others “in the know” to come clean and report one another (as you have done in the case of your friend), even if there is a stigma attached to doing so. Now if, on the other hand, some of these things have not been going on, or there is no evidence that the writer possesses that is has, then this all seems like a lot of hyperbole and potentially damaging innuendo.
    I grant that the Greek community does not create an atmosphere of inclusiveness on campus, and I wouldn’t mind seeing it go (I find the whole notion of Greek life somewhat repulsive and peculiar). But, unless there is evidence of the terrible things that you suggest Greek life has been involved in across the nation occurring on this campus, then it’d be best to stress the latter point about inclusiveness and division and leave the innuendo for gossips.

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      Ghostface KillahApr 26, 2011 at 2:14 am

      I think one of the problems is that the Greek community is extremely privileged and sheltered at our school. For example, cocaine possession carries a felony charge in the state of Pennsylvania, accompanied by one year in prison and a $5000 fine. Yet the Greek members at Allegheny found in possession of cocaine received a slap on the wrist and were only asked to leave their organization, instead of being kicked out of college and going to jail. As another example, Phi Gamma Delta lost its Allegheny charter because of allegations of gang-rape. Yet a few years later, students who ‘long for a place in our Greek system’ (sic) wish to bring this disgraced name back to campus.
      Although your suggestion is ideal, Greek members do not hold themselves accountable because of fear of repercussions from the national charter. And the college does not discipline Greek students as it does other students because of the powerful sway of Greek alumni. While this article was not clearly articulated, I respect the author’s general view and I second his hope that Greek life is one day discontinued at Allegheny.

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        Frattin Like My DaddySep 9, 2011 at 5:42 am

        Someone’s mad because they didn’t get a bid

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          Cherry GilbSep 15, 2011 at 2:31 pm

          Someone’s an entitled bro who prides themself on surrounding themself in an institution that makes rape easy and racism a policy.

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